Nightly Business Report – March 6, 2019

ANNOUNCER:  This is NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT with Sue Herera and Bill 



central banker says investors should get used to slower economic growth.  


a source of pain for the company, and it could take years, not months, to 


GRIFFETH:  Blazing new trails.  Could fire-resistant homes be the answer to 

California`s growing wildfire risk?  

Those stories and much more tonight on NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT for this 

Wednesday, March the 6th.

HERERA:  And good evening, everyone, and welcome.  

Today, we got new information on the health of the economy.  And we begin 

tonight with comments from a voting member of the Federal Reserve board, 

who said tailwinds have turned into headwinds, and described the economy as 

having entered a new normal.  That new normal means slower growth.  

John Williams, the president of the New York Fed, cited three factors, a 

global slowdown, geopolitical uncertainty and also tighter financial 

conditions.  But he also added that slower growth is not necessarily cause 

for alarm.



economy be expected on a normal average year to grow?  Our current estimate 

is around 2 percent.  So when we see the slowdown, you shouldn`t be — 

people shouldn`t be saying what`s happened to the economy that would cause 

you to think this would be down to 2 percent.  In fact this would be 

actually something considerably more normal, 2 percent growth in this — in 

the new economy, new normal economy.  


HERERA:  Mr. Williams said that allows the central bank to be flexible and 

patient when it comes to raising interest rates.  

GRIFFETH:  And the Federal Reserve also altered its description of the 

economy in its latest Beige Book.  That is the anecdotal look of the 

economy across the country which was released today.  Ten of the Fed`s 12 

districts saw slight-to-moderate growth in late January and February.  

Now, that`s being viewed as more downbeat compared to its more typical 

modest to moderate phrase.  Some of that was due, in fact, to the partial 

government shutdown which the Fed says hit a number of sectors, including 

retail, real estate and manufacturing.  And the manufacturing sector also 

cited higher costs due to tariffs.  

HERERA:  And on the trade front, the deficit rose to a record, hitting $891 

billion last year.  The U.S. imported more goods than ever, including from 

China.  Economists say the rise was due to things like a global economic 

slowdown and a strengthening dollar, which weakened overseas demand for 

American products.  

GRIFFETH:  Yesterday, Dallas Fed President Robert Kaplan gave his 

assessment of the economy and he focused on the continued rise of debt 

levels.  In his statement he said an elevated level of corporate debt, 

along with a high level of U.S. government debt is likely to mean that the 

U.S. economy is much more interest rate sensitive than it has been 


So, with future Fed rate increases on hold, does that mean that rates are 

about as high as they`re going go for the foreseeable future?  And if 

that`s the case, what does that mean for savers and investors?  

Joining us tonight is Phil Blancato.  He`s the CEO of Ladenburg Thalmann 

Asset Management.  

Phil, always good to see you.  Thanks for joining us.  


having me.  

GRIFFETH:  So, John Williams says tailwinds are now headwinds, expect 

slower growth.  And Robert Kaplan is looking at a sensitive economy.  If 

rates are as high as going to be for a foreseeable future, what does that 

mean for savers and investors do you think?  

BLANCATO:  This is the new normal.  And in some ways, it`s a goldilocks 

environment because we don`t have a lot of inflation.  We`re seeing wages 

above 3 percent, which is great.  But without real inflation, you just 

don`t get higher rates.  

So, to me, this is the new normal.  And that if you really look at the 

history of interest rates, 3 percent is about the norm in a 10-year 

treasury going back to the 1900.  So, unfortunately, this is the norm.  

HERERA:  You know, but in that case, to Bill`s point about what does it 

mean to savers, that`s when people start to look for yield in other parts 

of the market.  And sometimes they take on more risk than they probably 

should have.  

Do you anticipate that happening or no?  

BLANCATO:  I do, because we have a double edge sword going on right now.  

On one hand, the search for yield or reach for yield, that makes people who 

need the income, they are not accustomed to taking on risk.  But the 

slowing U.S. economy, which was forecast you heard a little bit about, now 

a situation where some of the debt may go bad.  

So, now, it`s really about having a plan, being strategic, not reaching to 

where you can afford — this week (ph), afford the risk without taking the 

loss.  So, it`s problematic that lower for longer, it`s better than it was 

a few years ago, but still a risky environment searching for yield.  

GRIFFETH:  Those passbook saving accounts still don`t bring a whole lot in.  

So where do you go for income right now, bearing in mind you have to 

balance the risks with the rates, huh?  

BLANCATO:  Well, for one, we`ve all been shorter in our maturities for a 

while.  If rates level off, you can extend duration for a little bit.  So, 

for example, you can go maybe buy a five-year bond or seven-year bond if 

you can just hold it for maturity, you can real bond.  That`s one way to do 


The other way is to look for equities that are yielding decent income.  The 

MLP market, BDC, but even Verizon (NYSE:VZ), for example, you have over a 4 

percent dividend.  


BLANCATO:  So, it does come with volatility, equity market risk, but at 

least you can get some income to supplement what you`re not getting on the 

bond side.  

HERERA:  Good advice.  

BLANCATO:  Phil Blancato with Ladenburg Thalmann Asset Management — good 

to see you again.  Thanks.

BLANCATO:  Thank you.  Good to see you.  

HERERA:  On Wall Street, the major indexes posted three straight days of 

declines.  Investors also tried to make sense of ADP`s private payroll 

report which saw slightly fewer jobs created than expected.  As a result, 

the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 133 points to 25,673.  The Nasdaq was 

down 70 and the S&P 500 declined 18.  

GRIFFETH:  Elsewhere, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and 

Development has issued a gloomy outlook for the global economy.  The 

group`s new forecast is for 3.3 percent growth, which is down from its last 

forecast of 3.5 percent, which was issued in November.  One of its chief 

concerns is growth in China and in Europe and a slowdown in trade and 

manufacturing worldwide.  

HERERA:  To shore up its economy, China is outlining a strategy to attract 

investment and its leaders are also speaking out on the crackdown on 

Huawei, one of China`s most important tech companies.  

Eunice Yoon is in Beijing with the details.



China`s Congress today is that foreign investors are welcome here.  At a 

press conference, the top state planner talked up the new foreign 

investment law, reiterating that one of the sore points with the U.S. trade 

negotiators, forced technology transfers in exchange for market access 

would no longer be allowed.  However, Chinese officials still don`t 

acknowledge that this is a widespread problem.  

Meanwhile, Huawei`s CFO is expected to appear in court today in Vancouver 

as part of proceedings to set her extradition date.  Beijing has demanded 

that Meng Wanzhou be released immediately.  

To understand why the Chinese government seems to be so extreme, one 

business consultant told me that it might be good to think of Meng Wanzhou 

as China`s equivalent to Ivanka Trump.  Huawei isn`t a state company but 

it`s a national champion so the line between private and government is 

blurred in that sense.  

So, imagine what the Trump administration would do to get her back.  

Lawyers tell me to influence the proceedings, China`s options are to, one, 

pressure Canada to dismiss the extradition request or to convince President 

Trump to get the extradition request withdrawn.  

This week, we saw the Communist Party Commission accusing two detained 

Canadians of gathering secrets.  Customs authorities also revoked an export 

permit for a Canadian canola firm.  Chinese authorities though have not 

related these two events with the Huawei case.  Expectations are also high 

that President Xi is going to ask President Trump to include her release as 

part of a trade deal.  

A third option is for Beijing to allow the legal proceedings to continue 

without comment.  That`s been Huawei`s take, that she hasn`t done anything 

wrong and the courts would come to the same conclusion.  

And in fact, some in the public here believe that Beijing`s strong reaction 

undermines Huawei`s position that it is completely separate from the 


For NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, I`m Eunice Yoon in Beijing.  


GRIFFETH:  Time to take a look at some of today`s “Upgrades and 


We begin with shares of VMware which were downgraded to sell from neutral 

at Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS).  The analyst there cites the potential for 

lower demand for their software as some companies adopt the new type of 

cloud technology.  The price target now $177.  The stock fell more than 1 

percent today to $170.12.  

Trip Advisor was downgraded to underperform from market perform at Cowen.  

The analyst there cited a weak start to 2019 for the company and the 

prospect of fewer visitors to its site.  Price target $40.  The stock fell 

3 percent to $50.65.  

And CSX (NYSE:CSX) was downgraded to hold from buy at Stifel Nicolaus.  The 

analyst says that he no longer sees a solid reason why that stock should 

outperform the market over the next 12 months.  The price target $47.  The 

stock was down a fraction today to $72.05.  

HERERA:  The slide in General Electric (NYSE:GE) stock extends into day 

two.  We told you yesterday about the CEO`s downbeat outlook for cash flow, 

and today, an analyst called his $6 price target on the stock generous.  

And that sent the shares down nearly 8 percent in today`s session.  

Morgan Brennan takes a closer look at what`s happening inside GE.



That was the takeaway from Larry Culp (NYSE:CFI) this week after the 

General Electric (NYSE:GE) CEO said industrial cash flow would be negative 

this year.  


you see we were at $4.5 billion last year.  I think as we come into `19, 

for the year, we`re going to be in negative territory.  This will be a year 

where we`ll have both operating and non-operating pressures on our free 


BRENNAN:  The power business continues to be a key source of pain.  But 

this year, it will bring higher restructuring costs, and Culp (NYSE:CFI) 

warns that a turn-around could still take years.  The comment sent shares 

tumbling, threatening a rally that seen a stock rise more than 40 percent 

from its December low.  Analysts are mixed on what it all means, with some 

warning the road ahead may still get tougher, while others believe the 

stock is a buy for the long term.  


smaller company, right, because we`ve been divesting assets.  We`ve got 

margins improving, OK?  There`s operating cash flow from continuing and 

then you`ve got all these legacy issues.  And then those legacy issues will 

still some be there in 2020, but they`ll come down.  And you know, this rig 

will start rolling.  

BRENNAN:  Uncertainty also swirled around GE`s financial arm Capital which 

Culp (NYSE:CFI) said would require $4 billion this year, notable for a unit 

that`s as recently as 2017 was profitable and contributing to the company`s 

bottom line.  Under Culp (NYSE:CFI), who took the helm in October, GE has 

been moving fast to sell assets and pay down debt, including a $21 billion 

sale of a bio pharma business to Danaher (NYSE:DHR) which was announced 

last week.  

But the devil will be in the details and we`ll get more of those in the 

coming days.  Tomorrow, GE will disclose details about its troubled long-

term care insurance business and next Thursday, it will share its outlook.  

Guidance investors seek after GE pulled its previous targets last fall.  

For NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, I`m Morgan Brennan at the New York Stock 



GRIFFETH:  And still ahead, why Las Vegas may become boring.  


HERERA:  Elon Musk is known for Tesla and SpaceX, but don`t forget that he 

also founded The Boring Company, which aims to change the way we travel 

through tunnels.  And now the company is on the verge of launching a new 

project in the heart of Las Vegas.  

Contessa Brewer has a first look at the proposal.



energized over his high-speed transportation tunnels.  

ELON MUSK, THE BORING COMPANY:  At 150 miles an hour.  It`s phenomenal.  

BREWER:  Now his company, The Boring Company, is proposing one for Nevada.  

The Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, LVCVA, is spending $1.4 

billion to renovate and expand a massive campus.  

STEVE HILL, LVCVA PRESIDENT & CEO:  You know, we`ve been the top city for 

trade shows 24 years in a row.  We certainly aim to keep that title.  

BREWER:  Moving customers over 200 acres is a challenge, and seen as 

crucial to competing successfully against other cities for mega 

conferences.  The Boring Company is proposing an underground people mover 

in a tunnel called The Loop.  

HILL:  This kind of innovation is an attraction in and of itself.  It helps 

our customers to experience everything on our campus.  

BREWER:  And at an attractive price tag of $35 million to $55 million, a 

fraction of a competing above-ground proposal.  It`s likely to be The 

Boring Company`s first commercial project and could boost future projects.  

Boring unveiled a test tunnel in December but proposals in Chicago, L.A. 

and D.C. have been stymied by complex bureaucracy and not in my backyard 


The company president told us we won`t use eminent domain.  If a project 

tunnels under 100 land owners, we need strict permission from each one.  In 

Las Vegas, there`s just one over owner and the LVCVA only needs the green 

light from Clark County.  City leaders are already anticipating ways the 

Loop might connect all of the Strip, the airport, the new Raiders Stadium, 

maybe even Los Angeles.  

HILL:  We will work to look for a way to responsibly say yes to it if it is 

what makes sense for Las Vegas.  

BREWER:  The LVCVA board votes next week.  If the proposal passes as 

expected, a final contract could be approved by June and the people mover, 

moving people by the end of 2020.  That would be a big win for the City of 




GRIFFETH:  Abercrombie and Fitch`s turn-around efforts appear to be paying 

off.  And that`s where we begin tonight`s “Market Focus” with the teen 

retailer expecting sales to increase this fiscal year.  The company has 

been revamping its stores and adding a broader selection of merchandise to 

appeal to more shoppers.  And with its latest earnings report, Abercrombie 

and Fitch (NYSE:ANF) did top analysts` expectations for the most recent 

quarter.  The stock rose 20 percent today to $25.70.  

But it was a different story after the bell for fellow teen retailer 

American Eagle.  That company forecast current quarter profits below 

analysts` estimates as it continues to spend heavily on marketing.  Shares 

fell in the initial after-hours trading this evening, but they did finish 

the regular session up 4 percent to $21.32.  

Dollar Tree (NASDAQ:DLTR) beat fourth quarter earnings and revenue 

estimates, but they did reveal that its family dollar brand is struggling.  

So, the retailer announced plans to shut nearly 400 family Dollar Stores 

and to renovate 1,000 more.  The renovated locations will begin selling 

alcohol and include a $1 section with Dollar Tree (NASDAQ:DLTR) 

merchandise.  Shares were up more than 5 percent today to $135.  

And BJ`s wholesale club beat profit and sales expectations.  Revenue for 

membership fees rose 11 percent.  Shares were solidly higher before the 

market opened, but then enthusiasm sort of faded and closed down more than 

3.5 percent to $25.62.  

HERERA:  Brown Forman (NYSE:BF.A) beat earnings expectations but missed on 

revenue.  The maker of Jack Daniels says it was hurt after Europe, Canada 

and China imposed tariffs on whiskey to retaliate against U.S. tariffs.  

The company also lowered its full-year guidance.  Shares were down more 

than 5 percent to $48.85.  

ExxonMobil (NYSE:XOM) is telling investors to brace for higher spending.  

The company expects capital expenditures to grow by $4 billion this year as 

it focuses on deep water offshore drilling projects.  Exxon added that its 

profit potential looks better than last year but the shares lost 1 percent 

to $79.28.  

The FDA has approved a new drug to treat depression.  The medicine made by 

a unit of Johnson & Johnson (NYSE:JNJ) is made with ketamine, a powerful 

anesthetic that has been used illegally as the club drug Special K.  The 

drug can only be administered by an approved health care provider and 

cannot be taken home.  J&J was up a fraction today to $139.09.  

GRIFFETH:  A number of high-tax states have been blaming the new tax law 

for a shortfall in revenue.  But it turns out that`s not the only reason.  

Robert Frank explains.



states from New York to California saw unexpected multi-billion dollar 

drop-offs in tax revenues in December and January.  New York Governor 

Andrew Cuomo saying last month that the state collected $2.3 billion less 

than he expected and he blamed the new federal tax law, which limited state 

and local tax deductions.  He claimed it was driving the wealthy out of New 


GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK:  SALT encourages high income New Yorkers 

to move to other states.  And what you have to remember is even if a small 

number of high income taxpayers leave, it has a dramatic effect on this tax 


Tax the rich, tax the rich, tax the rich.  We did.  Now, God forbid, the 

rich leave.  

FRANK:  Almost every other high tax state, California to Connecticut, New 

Jersey and Massachusetts reported major shortfalls in December and January 

compared with the forecast.  California`s tax receipts came in $3.4 billion 


But tax experts and accountants tell me the fall wasn`t probably due to the 

wealth flight but probably more to the stock market, specifically that big 

drop in December.  The biggest source of the shortfalls was estimated 

payments.  Now, those are payments made for nonwage income, usually from 

investments or businesses.  

Now, tax advisers say wealthy investors sold stock in December during those 

market declines to get the tax losses.  That lowered their tax bills for 

the year, but it also created a shortfall for the states.

Now, Moody`s (NYSE:MCO) is saying in a report that the revenue decline was 

owed in part to a volatile stock market`s impact on capital gains income.  

The markets are back, of course, this year, but those losses can be carried 

forward, so we will see if there is more of a price to pay for those 

December declines.  

Now, states that don`t have much exposure to the stock market have been 

faring a lot better.  Arkansas, Wisconsin and South Carolina, whose 

populations aren`t as tied to Wall Street hedge funds or stock-based 

compensation all reported recent surpluses.  And get this — they`re 

planning to return money to the taxpayers.  

Now, for the states, there`s a price to pay for having their fortunes so 

closely tied to the 1 percent and the stock markets that drive their 




HERERA:  Coming up, burning down the house.  A new effort to prevent that 

from happening.  


GRIFFETH:  The U.S. division of denim and clothing maker and retailer 

Diesel is filing for bankruptcy.  The company has struggled for a decade 

now with mounting financial losses amid bad investments.  Diesel plans to 

exit Chapter 11 with fewer stores and a new strategy that it hopes will 

help it return to profitability.  

HERERA:  Fuel efficiency hit a record in the 2017 model year with cars and 

trucks getting on average nearly 25 miles per gallon.  The agency 

administrator says there are legitimate concerns, though, about the 

industry`s ability to meet the new requirements.  Last summer, the 

government unveiled a proposal to freeze fuel economy requirements at 2020 

levels through the year 2026.  

GRIFFETH:  General Motors (NYSE:GM) plant in Lordstown, Ohio, is closing 

two days earlier than planned.  That factory made its last Chevy Cruze 

today, as a matter of fact.  The move by General Motors (NYSE:GM) is part 

of a strategy to shift away from sedans and more toward higher margin 

trucks and SUVs.  The Lordstown plant had been producing cars for 50 years.  

Its closing will eliminate about 1,700 hourly positions.  

HERERA:  California just saw its most destructive fire year ever, 

destroying homes and causing billions of dollars in damage.  But what if 

you could build homes that were fire resistant?  

Diana Olick is in Richburg, South Carolina, with her next installment of 

“Rising Risks”.  



more U.S. homes and buildings last year than any other time in recorded 

history.  And the eight more destructive years for wildfires ever have been 

in just the last 13 years.  

ROY WRIGHT, IBHS CEO:  There is no reason to think that they`re going to 

get better.  So as you look at this kind of impact on variations in the 

climate have had, we are far more susceptible to the size and intensity of 


OLICK:  The Insurance Institute for Business and Home Safety is on the 

front lines of fire research.  Wright is a former FEMA official and native 

Californian.  His parents lost their home in the Camp Fire last year, the 

worst in the state`s history.  Roughly 14,000 homes there burned to the 


Wildfire damage to property just in California last year totaled nearly $19 

billion, according to Core Logic.  

WRIGHT:  There are steps that we can take so that the impact of that fire 

is narrowed, it doesn`t spread as far, and it impacts far fewer structures 

in terms of that kind of generative over and over, fire beginning fire 

beginning fire beginning fire.  

OLICK:  So, the institute built this test home.  One side incorporating 

fireproof design and materials, and the other, not.  

DANIEL GORHAM, IBHS RESEARCH ENGINEER:  So we have a six-inch gap here from 

the top of the rock mulch, to the start of the siding.  This six-inch gap 

just like five-foot zone gives us a noncombustible area.  

OLICK:  A wildfire`s wall of flames may look most dramatic but it`s 

actually the flying embers that can be even more destructive.  Satellites 

have captured embers flying up to seven miles from a wildfire.  These start 

secondary fires.  The siding, roof and landscaping on this home protect it 

from those embers.  

GORHAM:  There`s no such thing as a fireproof home, but there is a 

wildfire-resistant home.  

OLICK:  While the cost to real estate from wildfires is rising, the cost to 

build a fire-resistant home like this one is actually the same or even less 

than a typical home.  

The savings is in the cement siding, cheaper than wood materials.  That 

offsets cost increases in gutters and vents, all of it far less than the 

cost of total loss.  

For NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, I`m Diana Olick in Richburg, South Carolina.  


GRIFFETH:  And before we go, a look at the final day on Wall Street.  The 

Dow fell 133 points, third straight day of declines.  The Nasdaq was down 

70, the S&P was down 18.  

HERERA:  That is NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT for tonight.  I`m Sue Herera.  

Thanks for watching.  

We`d like to remind you this is the time of year your public television 

station seeks your support.  

GRIFFETH:  I`m Bill Griffeth.  We do thank you very much for that support.  

Have a great evening.  We`ll see you tomorrow.


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